I watched most of Mr. Schiavo's interview the other night on Nightline. My first impression of the man is that he blinks an awful lot. I don't know, maybe he wears contacts and they were a bit dry or something. However, it
seemed as though, despite years of repeating the same lines, they are still lies and he knows it every time he uses them.
That's how he appeared. In my opinion, the bigger problem for him is in what he said. A copy of his transcript can be found on
ABC's website. There are a few things I want to focus on.
First is this exchange with my emphasis added:
BURY: Michael, in the heated rhetoric that's swirling around this case and has been for a number of years now — all kinds of charges have been flying back and forth. First of all, do you stand to benefit financially in any way from your wife's death?
SCHIAVO: There is no money. I will receive not a penny.
BURY: You did receive something of a malpractice settlement north of $1 million at one point, is that correct?
SCHIAVO: Yes.
FELOS: Well, no.
BURY: And what happened to that?
FELOS: Michael didn't receive those funds. Those were received in Terri's guardianship and it was a bank who was her guardian of the property that administered those funds.
BURY: But the question remains: What happened to those funds?
FELOS: Well, those funds have been used for Terri's medical care and guardianship expenses and costs and fees over many, many years.
Those funds are virtually gone, and Mr. Schiavo is not going to inherit or gain one penny by the result of Terri's death.
BURY: And so, Michael, who is now — and let's get the camera over to Michael if we can — Michael, who is now paying for Terri's case?
SCHIAVO: Actually, right now, she's listed on the indigent list for hospice. They were taking care of her. They take very good care of her.
BURY: It's got to be very expensive.
SCHIAVO: She had — I haven't received any bills from it, so I couldn't tell you how much it would cost.
What Chris Bury didn't ask is exactly what the guardianship expenses and costs and fees are. And if he had asked, I'm certain Schiavo and/or his attorney would have squirmed and avoided answering the question becuase it most likely means "attorney fees". So, picture this situation if you will, Michael Schiavo on behalf of his incapicitated wife wins malpractive suits with awards in excess of a million dollars. The awards were to be applied to caring for Terri. Shortly after receiving these awards, Michael began his current crusade. Now, the entirety of the awards is now gone, in large part because Michael Schiavo has been trying to make his wife die.
Notice I didn't say he was trying to let her die, nor did I say he was trying to overtly kill her. He is currently trying to set up conditions that will
make her die. There is no arguing this point. It is reality. He can try to dress it however he likes, but that is the cold hard reality of it.
The next exchange is this one:
BURY: Your wife's family and their supporters have been arguing in the most graphic terms that what you are going to allow happen on Friday, in their words, is in effect condemning your wife to a cruel death by starvation.
I'd like you to address that charge from them.
SCHIAVO: That's one of their soapboxes they've been on for a long time.
Terry will not be starved to death. Her nutrition and hydration will be taken away. This happens across this country every day.
Death through removing somebody's nutrition is very painless. That has been brought to the courts many of times. Doctors have come in and testified. It is a very painless procedure.
So if he's so convinced it is painless, why doesn't he give it a shot. Or how about "removing somebody's nutrition" from one of his children. Strangely, the State of Florida probably wouldn't like that one very much and would step in and remedy that situation.
The next thing is this comment from Schiavo:
SCHIAVO: Terry does not respond to anybody. She makes noises. She moans. She's been doing the same things for the past 15 years.
And they talk about their bona fide doctors. They have a list of doctors that signed affidavits from looking at a picture of Terry. That's where they get their information from, by looking at a picture.
And then they sign an affidavit swearing that she's not in a vegetative stage.
I'll tell you. That's a doctor you really want; they can look at a picture and make a diagnosis.
Again, Chris Bury drops the ball here. Had he done any research into this matter he'd have known that the reason why the Schindler's doctors have to rely on pictures and videos of Terry is because Schiavo won't let them examine her in person.
To me, this next exchange is where Michael Schiavo lost whatever credibility he had left:
BURY: The parents also argue that you have moved on with your life, that you now have children that you're with, another woman, and that you could, essentially, divorce Terri and relinquish guardianship to them. Why don't you do that?
SCHIAVO: If I moved on with my life — and I moved on with a portion of it — but I still have a big commitment to Terri. I made her a promise.
And another reason why I won't give Terri back is that Mr. Schindler testified in court, at the 2000 trial, that he would — to keep Terri alive he would cut her arms and legs off and put her on a ventilator just to keep her alive.
So why would I give her to a man that would do that to you?
He has "moved on with a portion" of his life? That's ridiculous. He's moved on entirely. Then this notion of making Terri a commitment and/or promise. Apparently we are to believe that Terri was so adamant in her desire not to be kept alive that she felt the commitment she wanted from Michael was more important than their wedding vows. Hey Michael....what happened to " in sickness and in health, till death do us part"? Or do you selectively chose which commitments you make to your wife and feel are worthy of honoring?
I'm sorry. This is a pile of mularkey. Michael Schiavo expresses later in the interview that it isn't about money. Well hooray for him. It's obvious to anyone with an ounce of commonsense that it isn't about money, it is about self-preservation, and for whatever reason we can only guess.
Though Schiavo provided no context for the quote of Mr. Schindler's testimony, I believe it would be safe to assume from the comment itself that it is hyperbole designed to demonstate the lengths to which a father will go to to keep his child alive. But that actually diverts us from the absurdity of the comment itself, and that is how he rationalizes that he, the man who will make Terri die, thinks it is irresponsible to "give Terri back" to a man who wants to do anything to keep her alive. Hello?!
I mean look at the stupidity of his position:
BURY: I understand that that's your feeling about what your wife wanted, but knowing that you believe she is in a vegetative state and knowing that her mother and father have said they're willing to pick up the burden and carry on the cost, what is the harm to you if you agree to their wishes and relinquish guardianship to them?
SCHIAVO: Basically what I just said. Her father stated in court he would cut her arms and legs off. I'm not going to turn over Terri to a person that would do that to you.
"No, I'm just going to make her die." Sheeeeeesh. The fact that Bury throughout this interview didn't press the issue with him makes me wonder what the real agenda was for Nightline to air the interview in the first place. (When you factor in the "polling" they reported on this issue, you really begin to wonder.)
There's more proof of Schiavo's heartlessness in this next exchange:
BURY: I understand fully the legal question here, Michael.
But let ask you in simply human terms. Can you understand the parents' contention, the bond that they have with their daughter, and their reluctance to let her go? Do you understand that?
SCHIAVO: You know, I have children and, you know, I couldn't even fathom what it would be like to lose a child. But you know, it's been 15 years.
They know the condition Terri is in. They were there in the beginning. They heard the doctors. They know that Terri's in a persistent vegetative state. They testified to that at the original trial.
Fifteen years — you've got to come to grips with it sometime.
So for him, a parent's love for their child should terminate after some period of time after which that child can not actively demonstrate love for the parent(s). Apparently he hasn't fully grasped what it means to be a parent yet. Maybe he's been too distracted by trying to make his wife die, to actually contemplate parenting the children he has with a woman who is not his wife. Again, I come back to his "commitment" to Terri, somehow he's managed to get a Judge to believe that some promise that no one else heard, is more important than the one made before God and the assembled witnesses on their wedding day.
I'm sorry, even if Michael Schiavo had nothing whatsoever to do with Terri's collapse, he is still a despicable man who deserves to have his nutrition withdrawn.
And there is that suspicion that he did in fact have something to do with her initial collapse. Near the end of his interview he comes out with this line:
And to sit here and be called a murderer and an adulterer by people that don't know me
Sure Michael, there is no evidence currently available to show you are a murderer. And besides, at best right now you'd only be an "attempted murderer". Now adulterer that's a different story. You are still married to Terri. You do have a live-in lover. You do have children with this lover. That pretty much makes you an adulterer. To me the strangest part of this entire situation is the fact that Judge Greer removed the only Trustee ever appointed to guard over Terri, and Terri's interests alone after the Trustee began to question the very fact of Michael's adultery. A Trustee/Guardian could well have pushed for a divorce on the grounds of adultery.
The reason why a divorce has never taken place either involuntary by a Trustee, or voluntary by Michael simply surrendering is precisely why people continue to question whether or not Michael is an attempted murderer. The question is: Why not a divorce, Michael? What is it about giving up Terri and her medical records that scares you? Is there something incriminating in the medical records? Are you concerned that if she had continued the treatment/rehab program she was in at the time of the last malpractive settlement, she might regain the ability to communicate? Why would that be a problem for you, Michael? What could Terri say that you might not want her to say?
Oh that's right, I forgot, you made a commitment to her, that if you are ever in the position to do so, you will make her die.